Finding Dory director Andrew Stanton and producer Lindsey Collins discuss the long journey to the Disney•Pixar sequel
Thirteen years after Finding Nemo became an instant animation classic, director Andrew Stanton and producer Lindsey Collins are gearing up to unleash their long-gestating sequel, Finding Dory. Back in April, ComingSoon.net brought you a behind-the-scenes look at the new film straight from a special press day held at California’s Monterey Bay Aquarium. Now, with the film’s big screen release just over two weeks away, we’re pleased to present an extended conversation with “kindred spirits” Andrew Stanton and Lindsey Collins. In the below interview, the pair discuss working together for the first time on Nemo and how their experience there would keep them inseparable through films like WALL-E and John Carter!
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CS: Lindsey, you were credited as a production manager on “Finding Nemo” and have worked with Andrew ever since. Where did this friendship start?
Andrew Stanton: Well, the friendship has yet to start! (laughs)
Lindsey Collins: Yeah! Who says we’re friends?! (laughs) I guess it started with “Nemo.” The production manager is the person who, kind of on a daily basis, is in every single meeting with the director. They’re making sure they’re in every place they need to be. That meant that he and I were basically attached at the hip at that point and through the film. Then he left to go work on “WALL-E” and I went on to “Ratatouille.” He was gone for awhile and came back saying, “I hope you’re not on anything. I was thinking maybe you could come work on ‘WALL-E’ with me.” I was like, “This old thing? I’m off of it! I’m going to go work with you!” Then my producer on that was like, “Wait, what?” But it was all okay. Since then, I think it’s been something where Andrew and I are like kindred spirits in the sense that I like the way he works. I like his style. I like his pace.
Andrew Stanton: It’s like finding a good band. There’s just this chemistry that you try to post-analyze later in meetings like this. You don’t think about it. It just works. You just go, “Great!” because you quickly find out how rare that is. It’s not about thinking the same. It’s about complementing each other. Sometimes that’s because you’re thinking about the thing that the other person isn’t thinking about.
CS: How did Monterey become the setting for “Dory”?
Andrew Stanton: Because we didn’t want to travel too far!
Lindsey Collins: Originally, [Andrew] wanted to set it off the coast of California because we were so intrigued with the kelp forest.
Andrew Stanton: The kelp forest was big on the first movie. We all got [scuba] certified here for “Nemo” and we all fell in love with the kelp forest. Then we all got depressed when we found that you couldn’t put a kelp forest in Australia. It doesn’t exist. In a weird way, it started with the simple desire for that environment to be in the movie. But so was the first movie. The first movie was build out of a lot of strange desires to see things underwater. I had this list of things that I wanted to see and little did I realize until later that they’re all in the submarine ride that I went on at Disneyland as a kid. I was like, “That’s where they all came from!” It’s all a vicious cycle.
Lindsey Collins: So from there it was the kelp forest and otters and sea lions. At some point we were like, “So it’s Monterey?” That’s where all that is. Pretty early on, too, [Andrew] knew that he wanted Dory to be from some kind of aquarium.
Andrew Stanton: Yeah, how else do you explain that she knows how to read and that she speaks whale? You needed something that was very eclectic.
Lindsey Collins: And that provided her the opportunities to learn all this stuff.
CS: Was it important for you to answer those questions? After all, it doesn’t really matter in the first film that she knows how to read unless you’re really nitpicking.
Andrew Stanton: No, but we used it kind of as stepping stones or starting points. It was really about making the story symbiotic with not going to the same place twice. I wanted to expand the universe of what the first film felt like. I wanted it to be complementary and I didn’t want to go somewhere different just for the sake of being different. Even when you take everything off the list that we saw on the first movie, the list is still massive. You could do dozens of movies. The ocean is that big with that much life and that many kinds of looks. We ultimately had to just pick something and start building from there.
Lindsey Collins: A lot of it came from asking, “What do we know about Dory?” We know she suffers from short-term memory loss. We know she speaks whale. We know she reads. Then [Andrew] started making this weird list of characteristics. If we tried to explain it all, it wouldn’t be cool, but there are a couple things that you’ll see that might make you go, “Oh! That’s why she did that!”
Andrew Stanton: I also had the “Toy Story” movies as a guideline. I get just as much a thrill of connecting dots that weren’t meant to be connected — from “Toy Story” to “Toy Story 2” to “Toy Story 3” — as the people watching it. It’s just fun to use every part of the buffalo. Make it all essential. You start there when you can.
Lindsey Collins: That is your kind of footprint as a director.
Andrew Stanton: I don’t like hanging chads.
Lindsey Collins: Hanging chads, yeah. You’re not a fan. You try to tie things up. Even things you’re not even aware you’re tying up sometimes. There’s obviously some level to your brain that goes for that.
Andrew Stanton: It ultimate comes to trying to make great art — and I’m not saying that what I do is great art — but it’s what you aspire to. You have to always ask, “Can I tell it with less? Can I show it with less? Can I make everything essential?” That’s when things become garish or melodramatic. When there’s too many notes.
Lindsey Collins: And too much convenience. But Monterey was perfect. It had everything we wanted and it’s two hours away.
CS: And it was in “Star Trek IV”!
Andrew Stanton: Can you believe that that got by me? I didn’t know it. I mean, I knew it, but I didn’t even realize it when we were making the film.
CS: There’s a pretty powerful line in “Finding Nemo” about Dory’s parents. Was that something that you always knew was there and could serve this story or did that have to be rediscovered?
Andrew Stanton: It was always there. It was always kind of loaded. I remember writing that line and going, “Okay, this is the one hint that there’s loss in her life.” It’s the only thing that justifies why she get so upset in “Finding Nemo.”
CS: One of the great aspects of “Finding Nemo” was that Nemo was, essentially, disabled with his bad fin. Now we’re seeing a number of other characters with disablities in a seven-legged octopus and a whale that can’t use her sonar. Was that something that you very actively wanted to reincorporate into the story?
Andrew Stanton: I didn’t take it too literally as being disabilities. I took it as a representation that all of us are imperfect. All of us are flawed. Whether that’s physically or mentally or character-wise, it’s more that there’s just no perfect person. We all feel sometimes that there’s something we’re deficient at. Eventually over time, if you’re lucky, you kind of go, “This is just who I am and the world’s just going to have to deal with it.” You just start to embrace who you are and accept it. There’s something very freeing about that.
CS: Do you feel that this story has aged with you? Is this a story that you would have told if you went immediately into a sequel a decade ago?
Andrew Stanton: That’s a good question. I’m not sure and it may be too soon to tell. I wouldn’t be surprised, though, if this is something I wouldn’t have been able to do years ago.
Lindsey Collins: When we give the interview after the movie comes out, there is an answer I have to that question that I will not give right now. How about that?
Check back soon as we’ll have even more Andrew Stanton, Lindsey Collins and the rest of Finding Dory‘s cast and crew between now and the film’s release in theaters June 17!
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FINDING DORY – When Dory finds herself in the Marine Life Institute, a rehabilitation center and aquarium, Hank—a cantankerous octopus—is the first to greet her. Featuring Ed O'Neill as the voice of Hank and Ellen DeGeneres as the voice of Dory, "Finding Dory" opens on June 17, 2016. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Marlin and Nemo get guidance from a pair of lazy sea lions in an effort to catch up with Dory. Featuring Idris Elba as the voice of Fluke and Dominic West as the voice of Rudder, "Finding Dory" opens on June 17, 2016. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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"Finding Dory" introduces new characters to the big screen, including a whale shark named Destiny who's nearsighted, and a beluga whale named Bailey who thinks his biological sonar skills are on the fritz. Featuring Kaitlin Olson as the voice of Destiny and Ty Burrell as the voice of Bailey, "Finding Dory" opens on June 17, 2016. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Hank is an octopus—or actually a "septopus": he lost a tentacle—along with his sense of humor—somewhere along the way. When Dory finds herself at the Marine Life Institute, a rehabilitation center and aquarium, Hank reluctantly agrees to help her navigate the massive facility. Directed by Andrew Stanton, "Finding Dory" opens on June 17, 2016. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Hank Design Concept Art by Production Designer Steve Pilcher. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Lighting Exploration Concept Art by Visual Consultant Sharon Calahan. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Lighting Exploration Concept Art by Visual Consultant Sharon Calahan. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Ray Trench Painting (Concept Art) by Artist Rona Liu. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – MLI Overview Painting (Concept Art) by Artist Tim Evatt. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Pipe Nexus (Concept Art) by Artist Rona Liu. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Hank Design (Concept Art) by Character Designer Jason Deamer. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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FINDING DORY – Touch Pool Concept Art by Artist Paul Abadilla. ©2016 Disney•Pixar. All Rights Reserved.
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Director Andrew Stanton during a "Finding Dory" story review with Axel Geddes, Angus Maclane, Victoria Strouse, Bob Peterson and Max Brace on May 7, 2014 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Director Andrew Stanton, graphic designer Craig Foster and Production Designer Steve Pilcher during the film production of "Finding Dory" on December 11, 2015 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Production Designer Steve Pilcher, Director of Photography Lighting Ian Megibben, Director Andrew Stanton and Co-Director Angus Maclane talk before a review during the film production of "Finding Dory" on December 11, 2015 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Director Andrew Stanton, Producer Lindsey Collins and Co-Director Angus Maclane talk while walking between meetings during the film production of "Finding Dory" on December 11, 2015 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Director Andrew Stanton during the film production of "Finding Dory" on December 11, 2015 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Jeremy Lasky is photographed on January 28, 2016 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Character Designer Jason Deamer is photographed on February 3, 2016 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Director of Photography Lighting Ian Megibben is photographed on February 16, 2016 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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(Center) Finding Dory Producer Lindsey Collins in an editorial meeting with (left to right) Noah Newman, Film Editor Axel Geddes, Production Manager Becky Neiman and Shannon Wood on February 16, 2016 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Michael Stocker is photographing working in his office on March 3, 2016 at Pixar Animation Studios in Emeryville, Calif. (Photo by Deborah Coleman / Pixar)
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Andrew Stanton and Bennett Dammann lend their voices to the ocean’s coolest turtles Crush and his son Squirt. They’re always happy to lend a flipper to a fish in need. Cruising the ocean for more than a hundred years definitely has its advantages.
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Idris Elba and Dominic West team up as the voices of Fluke and Rudder, a pair of lazy sea lions who were rehabilitated at the Marine Life Institute. Marlin and Nemo find them snoozing on a warm—and highly coveted—rock just outside the center. These sea lions really enjoy their down time and would rather not be bothered mid nap—but their bark is far worse than their bite.
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Andrew Stanton and Bennett Dammann lend their voices to the ocean’s coolest turtles Crush and his son Squirt. They’re always happy to lend a flipper to a fish in need. Cruising the ocean for more than a hundred years definitely has its advantages.
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Ty Burrell was tapped to give voice to Bailey, the Marine Life Institute’s resident beluga whale, who is convinced his biological sonar skills are on the fritz. The good news—or bad news, depending on who you ask—is that doctors at the MLI can’t seem to find anything wrong with him. Bailey’s flair for the dramatic never ceases to push his neighbor’s buttons: whale shark Destiny can’t seem to get through to him, no matter how hard she tries. Maybe he’ll listen to new friend Dory, who seems to be full of crazy ideas.
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Kaitlin Olson provides the voice of a whale shark named Destiny, who is a clumsy swimmer with a big heart. Destiny has a big everything, actually—whale sharks are the biggest fish in the sea. Destiny resides in the Marine Life Institute, where one day an oddly familiar blue tang named Dory falls into her pool. Destiny is admittedly embarrassed by her obvious lack of grace, a product of poor eyesight, but Dory thinks she swims beautifully. And Dory is delighted to learn that her supersized friend speaks whale, too.
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Ed O’Neill lends his iconic voice to Hank, whois an octopus. Actually, he’s a “septopus”: he lost a tentacle—along with his sense of humor—somewhere along the way. But Hank is just as competent as his eight-armed peers. An accomplished escape artist with camouflaging capabilities to boot, Hank is the first to greet Dory when she finds herself in the Marine Life Institute. But make no mistake: he’s not looking for a friend. Hank is after one thing—a ticket on a transport truck to a cozy Cleveland facility where he’ll be able to enjoy a peaceful life of solitude.
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Ellen DeGeneres returns to the sea as Dory, the bright blue tang with a sunny personality. She suffers from short-term memory loss, which normally doesn’t upset her upbeat attitude—until she realizes she’s forgotten something big: her family. Dory’s found a new family in Marlin and Nemo, but she’s haunted by the belief that someone out there is looking for her. She may have trouble recalling exactly what—or who—she’s searching for, but she won’t give up until she uncovers her past and discovers something else along the way: self-acceptance.
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Torbin Bullock voices Becky, an offbeat, kooky loon who takes a liking to Marlin. Although she inspires little confidence—especially from a certain, skeptical clownfish—Becky might be smarter than she looks.
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Diane Keaton and Eugene Levy were recruited to voice Dory’s parents. Jenny and Charlie would do anything for their only child. They celebrate and protect Dory, striving to arm her with the skills she’ll need to navigate the world with a faulty memory. Jenny may appear cheerful and a little flighty—but she’s a protective mother and a smart role model. Charlie likes to joke around, but nothing is more important to him than teaching his memory-challenged daughter how to survive.
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Bob Peterson is back as the memorable voice of Mr. Ray, the tune-loving teacher from the reef, who takes Nemo’s education—and that of his fellow undersea students—very seriously. Nobody enjoys Mr. Ray’s class more than Dory, who serves as his cheerful, albeit unnecessary, teacher’s assistant during their illuminating field trips.
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Albert Brooks dives in again to help bring Marlin to life. He may have traveled across the ocean once, but that doesn’t mean Marlin wants to do it again. So he doesn’t exactly jump at the opportunity to accompany Dory on a mission to the California coast to track down her family. Marlin, of course, knows how it feels to lose family, and it was Dory who helped him find Nemo not so long ago. The clownfish may not be funny, but he’s loyal—he realizes he has no choice but to pack up his nervous energy and skepticism and embark on yet another adventure, this time to help his friend.
Hayden Rolence was called on to voice Nemo. One year after his big overseas adventure,Nemo is back to being a normal kid: going to school and living on the coral reef with his dad and their blue tang neighbor, Dory. His harrowing adventure abroad doesn’t seem to have sapped his spirit. In fact, when Dory remembers pieces of her past and longs to take off on an ambitious ocean trek to find her family, Nemo is the first to offer his help. He may be a young clownfish with a lucky fin, but Nemo wholeheartedly believes in Dory. After all, he understands what it’s like to be different.
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